"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
05/10/2016 at 10:25 • Filed to: None
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"MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig" (MR2_FTW)
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I know Nissan has marketing the Maxima as a “4 door sports car” for a long time now, but I just wanted to get something off my chest. Up through at least the early 00's, the Maxima has had a solid beam rear suspension (seen below)
Here is the rear suspension from another 4 door, V6, front wheel drive sedan from a similar time period. Notice how long the arms are for minimal camber change under load, very sporty, right?
This is from a Toyota Camry. That’s right, the most boring car on earth has sportier suspension than Nissan’s “4 door sports car”.
Did you know that from the late 70's through the early 90's there was another Japanese manufacturer making a luxury 4 door sedan that was rear wheel drive, available with a manual transmission/limited slip diff, and shared an engine and suspension with the flagship sports car of the brand at the time?
BmanUltima's car still hasn't been fixed yet, he'll get on it tomorrow, honest.
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 10:30 |
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Well the Mustang just recently switched to IRS, but it is american, so that’s expected.
and 100 more
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 10:35 |
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MARKETING.
That’s all.
MultiplaOrgasms
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 10:37 |
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A 60hp Peugeot 106 has sportier suspension than a Nissan Maxima. A Volkswagen Bus has sportier suspension than a Maxima. Everything has sportier suspension than a Maxima.
RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 10:42 |
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Purely having IRS does not a sports vehicle make. In this picture, we have a rear suspension from a GTV6. Alfas are about the sportiest car around, right? Amazing cornering, weight balance... and yet, if you look at what this setup is, it’s a de Dion. Fundamentally similar to a beam axle as shown above. Sometimes it’s not about the tech, but how it’s set up. I would lay good odds that the simple beam in the Nissan is as well tuned or better for “spirited driving” than the setup in the Toyota.
Textured Soy Protein
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 10:48 |
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The 3rd gen J30 platform Maxima, the one with the 4DSC stickers in the window, had an independent rear suspension. The 4th and 5th gens had twist beams.
SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 11:00 |
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Wow, that’s gross. Anyone have any idea what’s up with that thing hanging down behind the bumper of the newer Nissan SUVs? Looks like an oil cooler, but I have no idea why there would be one back there for the diff since 90% of them are FWDs.
Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 11:15 |
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No Nissan Laurel?
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MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
> Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
05/10/2016 at 11:17 |
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Unfortunately that was never sold in the good ol’ US of A
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MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
> Textured Soy Protein
05/10/2016 at 11:24 |
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It’s such a shame. I know some people that were pretty into that generation Maxima. I get that it’s kinda sporty ish but I still just see it as an Avalon competitor.
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MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/10/2016 at 11:25 |
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Oh absolutely, lots of solid axle cars are sporty (AE86, Mustang, first generation RX7, etc) but those are also all rear drive.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 11:32 |
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I think a large part of whether a solid axle car is garbage in a turn is how much weight is on said axle. Having driven a euro compact recently with high front weight bias and a rear beam, combined with a high-ish CG relative to vehicle length, can’t recommend. Rear end skip is no bueno.
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Textured Soy Protein
> MR2_FTW - Group J's resident Stig
05/10/2016 at 11:58 |
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Until the 2nd gen Altima came out, the Maxima was Nissan’s main entry in the midsize sedan market, and its big differentiator between it and stuff like the Accord and Camry was that it came standard with a V6.
The original Altima was a ‘tweener that was more like an upsized Sentra than a proper midsize sedan. Once Nissan made the Altima into their primary Camry/Accord competitor, the Maxima became kinda irrelevant like a sporty Avalon.
Kent
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/10/2016 at 12:22 |
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Those inboard brakes have got to be a bitch and a half to replace.
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RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
> Kent
05/10/2016 at 12:33 |
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On the other hand, the axles are CVs (not load-bearing), and the weight is borne on the de Dion axle, so you can do the job on ramps or in a pit - unlike a Jag inboard setup.
TylerJ
> Textured Soy Protein
05/11/2016 at 09:34 |
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Oh wow. My parents had one of those. They ended up selling it with 400k miles. Never had an issue with it.
Jake Huitt - Two Alfas And A Nissan, Not A Single Running Car
> RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht
05/16/2016 at 23:19 |
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That one is so much nicer than the one I have. 150k miles and alfa rust does that to parts.
MikaelVroom
> SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
05/23/2016 at 10:33 |
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I NEED TO KNOW THIS. I keep seeing Rogues everywhere with what looks like a radiator peeking out from under the rear bumper but I can’t find any pictures and searching “Nissan Rogue Rear Radiator” doesn’t help me.